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Eric Krieg writes:
>>I do believe that as the economy has become more complex, its ability to cope with recessions depends relatively more on private sector behavior, and traditional fiscal and monetary policy are less reliably effective. Doesn't this statement in and of itself support the idea that there is a sustainable long run trend? What would happen if it was taken to its logical conclusion? The economy becomes SO complex that fiscal and monetary policy don't work at all. Posted March 3, 2004 9:10 AM
Steve writes:
If you really believe that the fluctuations around the long-term trend are roughly symmetric, then why should government bother about them? Recession? Don't worry, be happy. We'll be fluctuating to boom soon enough. Sorry, if that's what new Keynesians believe, then call me an old Keynesian. Aren't you reading "symmetric" into what Brad wrote? Even a quick glance at the historical data would show that the business cycle is not like a sine wave or something. Couldn't the idea also be that the President has imprecise control over the economy at best so blaming him or crediting him for the economy's performance is strained at best. Of course, it'd be hard to say that Brad subscribes to this view given some of his posts knocking Bush. Posted March 3, 2004 12:53 PM
Monte writes:
"Aren't you reading "symmetric" into what Brad wrote? Even a quick glance at the historical data would show that the business cycle is not like a sine wave or something." You must not be familiar with the Kondratieff wave. Posted March 3, 2004 2:45 PM
Arnold Kling writes:
Aren't you reading "symmetric" into what Brad wrote? Even a quick glance at the historical data would show that the business cycle is not like a sine wave or something.I think that there may be more symmetry if you look at GDP growth relative to a trend line rather than relative to zero. That is, although there are many more quarters with positive economic growth than with negative economic growth, there is less disparity between the number of quarters with above-trend economic growth and below-trend economic growth. Posted March 3, 2004 5:09 PM
PEmberton writes:
First up, Steve above misunderstands the symmetry. The long-run trend itself can be stochastic, with cycles around that. Posted March 3, 2004 7:05 PM
Boonton writes:
Doesn't this statement in and of itself support the idea that there is a sustainable long run trend? What would happen if it was taken to its logical conclusion? The economy becomes SO complex that fiscal and monetary policy don't work at all. I believe this would be the rational expectations school. If the gov't tried to counter a recession by increasing money supply, this school held that the market would assume the increase would be inflationary and respond by immediately raising prices rather than increasing output. Posted March 3, 2004 9:15 PM
Lawrance George Lux writes:
Why is the framework of fluctuations around a sustainable trend now in vogue, compared with a framework of shortfalls relative to capacity? Did I miss some major empirical proof? Because Monetarist theory would not work within the latter context, Money flow would simply direct to the shortages of capacity, and control of Money Demand lacks effect. I am of the latter belief where a framework of shortfalls incite adverse economic conditions. I personally do not believe either the Keynesians or Monetarists. I also do not believe in the conceptinalism of structural unemployment. I do believe Tax policy to be more effective than fiscal or monetary policy. Stable Tax policy will lead to stable Money Supply ratios. Deficit spending does not spur productivity, it actually contracts it by artificial inflation in Resource pricing. Easing Business taxation may be as harmful as it is helpful, through allowing Businesses to shift the Supply curve downward without loss of Profitability. lgl Posted March 4, 2004 1:20 PM
Edgardo writes:
I stop teaching macro 20 years ago. Thanks for let me know that nothing has been learned over the past 20 years (the conversion of Keynesians into monetarists is at best similar to the conversion of socialists into liberals--late and still suspicious). I hope young economists become interested in the "wealth of nations" rather than "stabilization" (Samuel Bowles summarizes very well the main arguments for returning to the founders in the prologue of his new book "Microeconomics: Behavior, Institutions, and Evolution"). Posted March 5, 2004 7:34 AM
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