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Boonton writes:
I call for shrinking the number of people on Medicare and Medicaid, while increasing subsidized health clinics in poor neighborhoods and taking steps to make it easier for individuals to obtain health insurance directly, rather than through employers. It's intesting how even market centered economists are eager to ditch the market when they get a pretend chance to make the world over in their image. The concensus seems to be that we don't want to simply accept the market as the allocator of health care. Why does that mean the market must be ditched entirely? Simply provide the poor with a subsidy to purchase healthcare or health insurance. If the 'minute clinics' are so great, then they will sprout up in poor neighborhoods like flowers. If some type of mega-Wal-Mart-Hospital is the most efficient way to deliever health care in poor areas then let that develop thru the market. Once again, I propose my universal coverage plan: 1. Dedicated tax to provide for a universal health care benefit. 2. The tax revenue is made into vouchers that individuals can use to: a: Purchase health care directly. 3. In order to cash in vouchers, insurance companies must agree to limits on pre-existing condition exclusion & charging different premiums based on risk. 4. Individuals are free to supplement the voucher with their own income if they wish to purchase more healthcare or coverage. 5. Unlike an entitlement, the voucher size will be directly tied to tax revenue. There will be no 'unfunded liability'. If people want a larger voucher they must accept higher taxes and vice versa. Posted July 20, 2004 9:50 AM
Mcwop writes:
A few comments: One argues that you are better off going to an emergency room. There is such a thing as urgent care centers, which are a far cheaper “halfway” house to the emergency room. We have one nearby where I had stitches, an ear infection treatment, and several other minor fixes all without an appointment (and not much wait either). It was cheap too. There needs to be more of these centers. As to the discussion question: This would be an experiment worth watching. Posted July 20, 2004 9:54 AM
asg writes:
I confess to some surprise at seeing "WTF" in a Kling post, but that aside... ... there's a fairly important error, or at least misunderstanding, in the TCS essay. Arnold quotes the Fraser Institute paper as saying: "Canada spends more on health care than any other industrialized OECD country except Iceland." Yet it does not say that... or rather, it does, but earlier in the paper (and in the graph displaying the data) it points out that what they mean is "any other industrialized OECD country with universal access." (my emphasis) That is, the U.S. and Mexico are excluded from those comparisons. So it is not true, as one might think upon reading the quoted sentence, that Canada spends a greater percentage of GDP on health care than does the United States when the figures are adjusted for age of the population. Posted July 20, 2004 10:42 AM
Rick Stewart writes:
For Discussion. How might government and private sector programs be combined to make health care better? How might they be combined to make it worse? Health care? I see no way the government can efficiently make health care in the United States better, with or without the private sector. If the question was intended to address the challenge of 'access' to health care, certainly the government could help eliminate the problem of a private market for health insurance, which naturally seeks to increase profits by underwriting customers. I suggest a simple solution. If an insurance company wishes to sell health insurance policies in a state, they must allow any individual living in the state to purchase the policy at exactly the same price. Period. This allows insurance companies to concentrate on 1) developing diverse policies that customers actually want (and that provide a profit to the company), 2) reducing administrative costs, 3) pressuring providers for lower costs. Posted July 20, 2004 6:17 PM
Jim Glass writes:
if you want a thorough medical exam, the last place you should go is an emergency room. My college roommate went to the local emergency room with a bad pain in his side, was given codeine to kill the pain, and almost died from his abscessed appendix. He might well have died if he hadn't felt the pain through the codeine and made a long trip to his own doctor who hospitalized him immediately, because it certainly would have ruptured. As it was he was in the hospital for weeks and missed a term of school. Off of my more recent experiences taking people to NYC hospital emergency rooms, they are about the last place I'd want to go even in an emergency. Posted July 20, 2004 6:21 PM
Lawrance George Lux writes:
Arnold, A number of questions must be answered about Health Care, before real solutions can be found: The determinatiion of how much American people are willing to pay for health care is simple: tell the American public they must determine how many hours of work per week they wish to devote to health care. All Income will be considered by weekly segments, and Everyone will be considered to work 40 per week. The American people could chose any number of hours they desired--from 1-20 hours. All Income would be so considered--even Government payments State, Local, and Federal. The total Income taken in yearly would be estimated, and the average premium per Enrollee would be determined. Each Doctor would receive from this fund for each Patient he was primary Care giver. The Doctors would have to determine how they would disperse the money--through purchase of Drugs, hospital care, medical mechinery, Consultant Doctors and Specialists, etc. Their own personal income would be dependent upon how they used the funds, and how well they negotiated for medical services as a group. They would also determine what Patients had the most viable chance for any care. lgl Posted July 21, 2004 11:12 AM
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