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The author at Different Opinion in a related article titled Arnold Kling Does Not Believe in Happiness writes:
The author at Business Evolutionist in a related article titled Carnival of the Capitalists writes:
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Lawrance George Lux writes:
It would be affected drastically. Commuters will be faced with obtanining permits as expensive as the fuel in their vehicles, unless they use mass transit systems. Retailers will have to bear the cost of home delivery systems, being refused the right to release Inventory except at projected use homesight. Travelers will pay in a high tax per mile ($.25) for personal vehicle travel in distances over fifty miles from registered vehicle use. Housing permits for new constructions will be charged so much tax per cubic foot of space (We are talking about $3 per cubic foot over a defined normal space). The list goes on and on, and is not pretty. lgl Posted July 27, 2004 4:23 PM
Brad Hutchings writes:
How would we know whether people were truly happier? We will have a survey and a formula. Duh! Posted July 27, 2004 5:27 PM
david writes:
What both you and (surprisingly) Frank completely miss is that the current structure of American cities - sprawl, large single family homes, long commutes - isn't due to consumer preferences, its due to a boatload of regulations and government interference at every level of government: Minimum lot sizes, floor-area ratios, minimum parking requirements, mortgage tax deductions, federal subsidy of the highway system, gas taxes that don't cover pollution externalities. Ask any developer trying to build dense housing in American urban cores, the bureaucratic obstacles are enormous. What we get is tract homes, pollution, and onerous commutes. If the housing market in American cities were free, it would look a lot more like the ideal Frank describes. Posted July 27, 2004 6:30 PM
beat waydown writes:
yea. nice slant, bro. I have many similar posts meself. re: JOHO post: people you don't want to be around wearing you down. participatory democracy is like a condo assoc. That's as good as it gets. making sure it doesn't get big feet and run amok, like it did in Iraq, is the trouble. Posted July 28, 2004 9:01 PM
Rob Sperry writes:
How do we know what the market equilibrium is? Regulatory zoning, and the permit process play a large part in determining what can get build and where. In most places its illegal to put office, housing, stores and restaurants on the same block. Those places where it is legal tend to be dense and very expensive an indication that some people value this arrangement. Posted July 28, 2004 11:02 PM
shoaf writes:
"Different Opinion" thinks there is some kind of "contextual consumptive externality." "Different Opinion" says there is a "consumption race" that induces the poor to work more and buy more expensive things than they would otherwise. He says the solution is a progressive tax. I think a progressive consumption tax might yield contextual consumptive impacts at the governmnetal level? That is, rich counties might start getting better roads, schools, etc. thus inducing poor neighbooring counties to gain less happiness from their county-owned possessions. For this reason as well as many others, even if the contextual effect is present, I do not think governmnet interference is justified. Posted July 29, 2004 8:56 AM
Jason Ligon writes:
The real question is what makes politically motivated happiness researchers happy? Greater control of everyone's lives for their own good? Security from the chaos of people making willy nilly decisions about their own lives? Posted July 29, 2004 10:07 AM
Michael Blowhard writes:
To add to what David wrote about the non-free-market realities of housing, towns and cities, I'll add two other points: * Urban renewal. Billions spent by the government on largely-destructive urban policies, which helped destroy the very appeal of cities. * The massive amount of money that goes into highway construction and repair has its effects on housing and building patterns too. What if sprawl weren't being subsidized? I have no idea what the results would be. But I do note that housing in New Urbanist projects (which some free-marketers love to jeer) commands a premium. Let's see. Doesn't economics teach us that "commanding a premium" usually means that there's unserviced demand out there? Posted July 30, 2004 5:10 PM
Michael Blowhard writes:
Clicked too soon... And how about the money that the government spends defending our oil-and-gasoline culture? Including, for instance, mideastern wars? How about if those billions were allowed to seek their own level instead of being taken care of (and disguised) by the government? I suspect that's another change that would have a substantial impact on the housing-and-building market. Posted July 30, 2004 5:13 PM
Yasser writes:
I have another question: If people truly derive more happiness from "inconspicuous consumption", then why do they overwhelmingly opt for conspicuous consumption instead? Perhaps it has something to do with herding behavior: buying increasingly larger houses, expensive cars, and other trappings of affluence is what most people seem to do - after all, it represents the American Dream. And maybe people are too myopic to realize that the pleasure derived from conspicuous consumption is ephemeral. As the novelty of a newly-acquired bauble wears off and happiness returns to baseline, the myopic mindset dicates that even more opulent objects should be purchased, in a neverending cycle. Finally, our evolutionary instincts cause us to focus on attaining greater status and power (presumably because this leads to mating opportunities), and conspicuous consumption is simply the sine qua non of that process. Posted August 2, 2004 10:21 PM
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