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The author at The Club for Growth Blog in a related article titled Tuesday's Daily News writes:
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Jüri Saar writes:
If you write it, I'll definitely read it. Posted August 15, 2005 2:34 PM
SL writes:
Without correct measurement of variables and the right set of relationships, almost every argument is reduced to merely ideology fights. Show me the proof and I will be convinced. Posted August 15, 2005 3:21 PM
Mr. Econotarian writes:
There is nothing wrong with math. But I find that the biggest problem in economics is that people use math to solve simulations of economic models that simply don't exist. A key example is that "investment problem" in Africa, where economists kept saying that their models predicted that increasing capital investment would help the economies, which while inherently true, it blatantly ignored the over-regulation and corruption that made such investment in many poor African countries foolhardy. The result was economists suggesting "investment aid" which just ended up in the pockets of corrupt kleptocrats, when the real economic answer is the need for de-regulation. For example, the minimum wage in Niger is $1 per day. Despite the fact that most of the population makes less than that. Despite the fact that millions of people in Niger face hunger if not starvation this year. But no, you can't employ them for $0.99 a day...even if they are starving. And you can't hire the starving people if you can't afford to provide them 12 to 20 days of paid leave per year, depending on seniority. As a result, nearly 95% of people in Niger work in the informal sector, leading to reduced productivity. Posted August 15, 2005 4:32 PM
Don writes:
If Baron-Cohen thinks that economists are people who try to predict what's going to happen in terms of stock markets, I think I can safely ignore his comments. Posted August 15, 2005 9:46 PM
Lauren Landsburg writes:
Hi, Don. I don't think Baron-Cohen was at all suggesting that economics as a field consists entirely of finding better ways to predict the stock market! I think he was just giving an illustrative example of his usage of the term "systemizer"--an example that might be recognizable to his listening audience. You might want to give him another chance. If anything, Baron-Cohen flatters economics as a profession by taking for granted the desire of economists to associate the field with rigorously testable, predictive sciences such as physics. Historically, that parallel is more often denied than recognized. Economics as a science is most certainly systematic, pursuing the use of rules and rational debate rather than random guesses or untestable intuitions to explain social phenomena in order to predict and understand. It is systematic thought, made possible in its most elegant form by mathematics, that makes a science precise and testable. Yet, to notice that one way to communicate with others is to be clear, precise, and orderly is not to deny that there are other valuable ways to communicate. And to notice that sciences, including economics, by nature of their including the option to communicate via some of these orderly elements, may especially appeal to some who are most comfortable with systematization doesn't mean that these sciences contain no elements that might appeal to non-systemizers--elements such as art, creativity, ingenuity, serendipity, nuance, politics, power, imagination, religious or spiritual inspiration, the ethereally satisfying (and ironically systematic?!) beauty of using the verimost non-systematic aspects of language itself to grasp at delicate communication that has never yet nor may ever be systematized, etc. Baron-Cohen's point is that there are some natively different ways of communicating that seem universally characteristic. Some people gravitate toward one or the other; and a few people gravitate toward one or the other in the extreme. De gustibus non est disputandum! Baron-Cohen is intellectually curious about one particular extreme "gustibus" and what can be learned from studying its manifestations. Posted August 16, 2005 7:27 AM
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