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John T. Kennedy writes:
"Poor people doing without health care makes me unhappy, so go ahead and tax me to pay for that." Tax you? What's stopping you from simply giving your money to the poor? Clearly you're concerned that left to choose freely people would not contribute as much to the poor as you'd prefer they do, but what give you the right to compel anyone to pay if there are other things they'd prefer to do wit their money? Posted April 27, 2006 9:40 PM
aaron writes:
One thing I would like to see is for it to be made easy to stick with one policy. You should be able to keep your policy when switching employers and to keep coverage when unemployed. Posted April 28, 2006 12:11 AM
quadrupole writes:
You said: This seems to be an awfully peculiar basis on which to provide a government subsidy: those who devote their own incomes to obtaining health insurance get no subsidy; but those who choose to spend their incomes on other goods and services do get a health insurance subsidy. Funny, isn't this exactly how social security works? Those who devote their own incomes to obtaining savings and investments that can support them in their retirement get no subsidy (if they are in my generation, their expected social security returns are negative); but those who choose to spend their incomes on other gods and services do get a retirement subsidy. Posted April 28, 2006 2:51 AM
Adam writes:
Given that discussion, a case for universal health care would be reasonable for vaccination and treatment of contagious diseases, which clearly has an externality. No argument for general ailments, but I wonder if it would be politically possible, if there is a program of some kind providing government funding (not mandatory coverage) for treatment of contagious diseases, to keep the program from expanding to general health care. Posted April 28, 2006 8:09 AM
Loweeel writes:
Arnold, I think that quasi-compulsory vaccination, government subsidies for it, and statutes making the government rather than the vaccine companies responsible for the harms from compulsory vaccination, handles at least some the negative externality of of those without health care. Vaccination removes something like a negative network externality (as the value of the vaccine decreases with the number of people who are vaccined); without the {MMR, Hep A/B, etc.} vaccines, not only are we allowing free-riding on the vaccinations of others, we're reducing the risk of these diseases incubating and mutating within people harboring them. Posted April 28, 2006 9:41 AM
Max Schwing writes:
The writer for the New Republic got something wrong. Germany does NOT have a universal health care service, at least not like Canada. It has state insurance companies (who still behave like heavily regulated private insurance companies) and private services ( I think France is alike, but I am not sure). So, most physicians live on those private patients, while they grudgingly accept state-insured patients. There are no long waiting lines exactly because there are still many young students of medical science, who think that the small private market will support them. So, instead of a nationalized universal health care, we still have differences and a small private insurance market. Also, you have the right to be uninsured, which is something not known in the Canadian system. Posted April 28, 2006 9:52 AM
matt writes:
Why do such brilliant minds occupy themselves with this tired question? I'm not brilliant, so I'm allowed to. But OK, fine. I want universal oil change coverage, too. Is it possible? Sure, anything's possible. Is it going to work as well as the alternative of leaving folks to their own preferences? I'm in the middle of something, so somebody else can call Cuba and ask. Posted April 28, 2006 10:45 AM
aaron writes:
Supply needs to be increased without increasing the marginal cost of providing it. This means that we need to get more people into the medical profession without increasing salaries. Ways to do that are: 1)Increase the prestige of working in medicine. 2)Decrease the cost of entering medicine. 3)Change the workload to make medical jobs more attractive (identify tasks that doctors don't like doing and find other ways to get them done). I think, aside from cutting out bureaucracy, we need to cut costs in education and training. Allow earlier and more specialization. Simplify and shorten the process of entering medicine. Posted April 29, 2006 2:00 AM
Jonathan writes:
I've always heard from those in the industry that the set of those without health insurance make up most of the set who don't go in for regular check-ups, pre-natal care, breast examinations, prostate screenings, etc., and while it's not 1:1 that all of the people who don't get such things are uninsured, it's enough of a correlation to matter. Now, it's unclear whether or not providing these people with health coverage would help, but what I've heard is that by making it clear that these preventive treatments are necessary and freely available to those who can't pay, you may be able to get more people to go in. To society, this is a huge benefit. Otherwise they come in and invariably rack up huge charges for conditions that were at one time easily treatable, but which are no longer. In terms of pre-natal care, that's a gimme. Bad things happen in delivery rooms when there's no history on the mom or the baby. These things end up costing much more than they should have, the price of which is borne by the hospitals and the government, at costs far exceeding what could've been charged had the person simply gone in for care at an earlier, non-emergent time. I could clarify and probably write this argument better, but suffice it to say, an economic benefit is in reducing greatly the number of people who incur massive medical expenses borne by the state in favor of treating them inexpensively at an earlier time. Right now the only "free" care offered to these people is at the point when someone drags them into the ER. For a (probably bad) analogy, consider a car whose automatic transmission has started shifting a little harder due to an undiagnosed leak in the system, causing it to lose ATF. In addition, I've failed to monitor the ATF levels, which are preciptiously dropping. Without even fixing the slow leak, I could've fixed the problem over and over again indefinitely simply by checking the ATF each morning and refilling it as needed, an incredibly inexpensive solution. Slightly more expensive, I have my local Jiffy Lube recondition the transmission for ~150 bucks. But instead of doing that, I wait until the whole thing stops shifting. At this point it's too late - I need to take it to a transmission shop and have the tranny rebuilt. The cost of doing this may be more than the car is worth, and so by skimping on some early detection and simple solutions, I've effectively killed my car. Posted May 2, 2006 4:32 PM
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