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ben writes:
The B-L analogy strikes me as being very erroneous. I am not telling you how to drink the coffee, I am protecting myself from you copying my new methods for producing the cup of coffee. Telling you how to drink it is like your Microsoft example of terms in a contract. This is similar to real estate purchases that contain clauses restricting the behavior of the new owners. Posted July 10, 2006 11:44 AM
Brad Hutchings writes:
BL make a strawman argument. Paragraph 1 -- Copyright and Patents do not protect ideas. Copyright protects a particular expression of an idea. Patents protect a specific methodology. Paragraph 2 -- Patents do no protect laws of nature or discoveries in the natural world (except for a small class of patents known as "gene patents" where it is recognized that the process of discovery might as well be invention based on the investment and brain power required -- it isn't Columbus sailing west). The paper reads like a whiney lower division survey paper from there... Speaking of lower division... IP Law is a legal framework that codifies informal rules about how we assign credit for expression of ideas. I have no idea what rank Boldrin has achieved in academia. Levine is a professor. Let's say they were both Freshmen at UCLA. Presumably, they got in partly because they wrote better essays than their peers or provided better test answers. These were "their" essays and test answers. Without recognizing those as de facto property, UCLA has no way to judge that they are worthy of admission. Morally, it would be reprehensible for them to pass off essays or test answers of others in order to secure positions in UCLA's freshman class. All I can say is that if Levine were my professor, I'd feel obligated to plagiarize blatantly. I wonder if he'd get the irony... Posted July 10, 2006 2:13 PM
Robert writes:
Speaking of lower division... IP Law is a legal framework that codifies informal rules about how we assign credit for expression of ideas. Untrue, at least in its Anglo-American expression. For example, in the realm of copyright, this claim inflates the copyright with the droite d'auteur to be known as the author of a work. If I try to profit from being known as the creator of a work I did not create, even if that work is in the public domain, I am still committing a fraud. In the realm of copyright, I am not sympathetic to the general claim that copyright is bad, but I am quite firmly convinced that presently, copyright lasts longer than serves any public interest. I could present on net-present-value principles an argument that, for a discount rate of 2%, a flat term of 35 years is a fair term of copyright. In the realm of patents, there are some fields that patents work fairly well for. They work well for pharmaceuticals, where what is being patented is usually well-defined. They are not presently working so well for fields where what the innovation is, is not so well-defined. As a result, claims are being granted that should not be granted. This has led to the practice of patent-squatting, which I think can be widely agreed upon as an abuse of the system. In my opinion, a good corrective to abuse of the patent system would be a greatly expanded notion of "obviousness." In contrast to the Blackberry case, where (in part) the court rejected RIM's case that the patented art would occur to any reasonably competent programmer, because the Blackberry had been successful (i.e., the doctrine that the principal reason for the Blackberries success was that hypothetical competitors lacked the patented art), I would like to see a legal doctrine where a clean-room re-implementation of a patented art is prima facie evidence of obviousness -- a reasonably skilled person could have figured it out on their own, because, well, they did. This would also impede patent squatting, because if a firm implements their patent in some notorious, widespread product, it is far more difficult for an accused infringer to demonstrate ignorance of the patented art, and a clean re-implementation, than if the patent holder does not use the patented art it any way. Posted July 10, 2006 8:06 PM
bob writes:
You can find Boldrin and Levine's book, Against Intellectual Monopoly here http://www.econ.umn.edu/~mboldrin/aim.html Posted July 10, 2006 9:08 PM
Steve writes:
That IP encourages greater creativity is an assertion often made but never demonstrated. Where is the controlled experiment? Where is the epidemiological evidence? Fields where IP protections are weak, such as cooking and fashion, have a reputation for being among the most innovative ones. Charles Murray in his book Human Accomplishment demonstrates that the density of innovation was higher in the 19th Century than at present, a time with weaker IP protections. Posted July 11, 2006 4:46 AM
Bill Stepp writes:
One problem with Microsoft's making a contract prohibiting copying is that it's unenforceable. Posted July 11, 2006 3:54 PM
Bill Stepp writes:
B-L are right that pharma innovation was high where patents didn't get in the way. In England the Sargent Committee claimed in 1937 that patents stifled drug innovation. They cite an Oct. 2002 NBER paper (it's online) Posted July 11, 2006 7:00 PM
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