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The author at In the Agora in a related article titled Ron Paul's Scandal writes:
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John Hall writes:
This is like 100% old news and only written in the TNR to coincide with the New Hampshire primary. Not only has he talked about it before, but he has responded to the claims in the past and today on his website. I hope you don't trust everything you read in TNR. Check his campaign website. The proper response: Ron never wrote it and his only fault is not reviewing his newsletter. Acknowledge that Ron is the best libertarian politician and if you were to vote, he's the only person you should vote for. If you don't vote for Ron, don't vote. Posted January 8, 2008 5:28 PM
Edward writes:
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Zach Copley writes:
January 8, 2008 5:28 am EST ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul issued the following statement: “The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts. “In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’ “This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary. “When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.” ### Posted January 8, 2008 5:35 PM
steve writes:
Do some research! Press Releases › Ron Paul Statement on The New Republic Article Regarding Old Newsletters The New 'Republic' Posted by Lew Rockwell at January 8, 2008 02:04 PM Posted January 8, 2008 5:36 PM
L writes:
Here is Paul's official statement on New Republic's article: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/125/ron-paul-statement-on-the-new-republic-article-regarding-old-newsletters Posted January 8, 2008 5:37 PM
anti-smear writes:
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Zach Copley writes:
January 08, 2008 TNR has a long and checkered history of pro-fascism, pro-communism, and pro-new dealism. Founded to promote the rotten progessive movement of militarism, central banking, income taxation, centralization, and regulation of business, it naturally hates and fears the Ron Paul Revolution. The mag is also famous for having published a slew of entirely made-up articles by Stephen Glass, which it passed off as non-fiction. Through the 1950s it was an important magazine, of sigificant if baleful influence, but it long ago declined in circulation and significance, like all DC deadtree ops. Long close to Beltway libertarians, for whom its politically correct left-neoconism is fine and dandy, TNR once published a cover story literally comparing Ross Perot to Adolf Hitler when he was running for president. That is the publication's style--hysterical smears aimed at political enemies. Posted January 8, 2008 5:42 PM
CrazyGoatIdol writes:
IMDB is right. You say his name 3 times, and the crazies just come out, just like Candyman. Posted January 8, 2008 5:50 PM
Adam writes:
"My problem with (1) is that, even if you accept Paul's statement, the incident illustrates the sort of people who rally to his banner." I would never reject something because I find some of the other people who are attracted to it to be abhorrent. If I did, I could never support any politician or movement. Posted January 8, 2008 5:51 PM
rhys writes:
"My reaction is closest to (5), although I cannot say that I abandon Ron Paul, because I never was a supporter. In fact, part of my reaction is to say I told you so." So you are against mass movements? Why would you put so much creedence in an article you found on the internet? You won't be part of a mass movement, but you don't seem to have any qualms about jumping on the bandwagon of a tiny, disreputed internet movement - go figure. Really, Paul is guilty of trusting people too much. I'm sure he's learned his lesson, since I haven't seen any other dirt that is less than 20 years old. Posted January 8, 2008 6:08 PM
Ethan writes:
Would the civil rights movement be considered mass'ish? Posted January 8, 2008 6:29 PM
Brad writes:
I've finally come around to the "new" thinking that pervades the Reason crowd: that libertarianism today is about tolerance rather than being distinctly anti-government or rallying around some theoretical savior and raising money for a blimp. The market preference over government dictates flows from the tolerance principle. This Ron Paul stuff pretty much shows that while he talks the talk now, he hasn't walked the walk. He's unquestionably built his career by appealing to a lot of screwballs. I remember him being a popular figure with the YAFers circa 1992 were dabbling with the Birch John crowd and calling the libertarians "goat-[CENSORED]ers". And there's no question that his invocation of the term "neo-con" is understood by many of his supporters as a codeword for "the Jews". And how weird is it to be talking monetary policy after three decades of unprecedented growth? I mean, he sounds to me like (Arnold will know what I'm talking about) the bridge club nag who gets bent out of shape when someone bids their hand like a card player rather than exactly by convention. Posted January 8, 2008 6:35 PM
H. Paine writes:
Headline: Establishment media machine reaches back in time more than ten years and revives a long dead and dismissed story for a primary day political snipe job. The only question is, will the public be manipulated by a deliberate and unethical smear, or will this backfire as all other attempts to discredit Ron Paul have? Paul answers the attack with a shrug: “This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary. And takes responsibility for his error: “When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.” Local Texans agree, citing the fact that Paul chose to practice medicine in a 40% minority area and treated all patients graciously. Long time Jewish associates and minority supporters who have known and met Paul insist that the statements are entirely out of keeping with his character. The New York times, making similar allegations in 2007, were forced to print an apology, admitting there was no evidence linking the statements directly to Paul and that their story constituted irresponsible reporting. The real question this story raises is, why, when this information has been readily available for better than a decade—when it has been debated and dismissed because it lacked genuine merit--is it suddenly “breaking news”? Posted January 8, 2008 7:11 PM
Jeff Bubb writes:
You failed to mention a possible sixth response: 6) Realize the material is not Ron Paul's sentiment, it only comes from a newsletter from years ago, and means nothing toward his run for presidency. I'm leaning toward response #6. Posted January 8, 2008 7:18 PM
matt writes:
#4 is closest to my view. What Paul was saying over the last few months makes perfect sense; what he was saying back in the 80s doesn't. Posted January 8, 2008 7:36 PM
Elizabeth writes:
January 8, 2008 5:28 am EST ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul issued the following statement: “The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts...." [This comment has been edited to elide the rest of the quote because the full content of the quote has been posted above in the thread a few times already. Thanks, Elizabeth.--Econlib Ed.] Posted January 8, 2008 7:56 PM
James Madison writes:
Ron Paul will end the racist war on drugs. He will also pardon every black person in federal prison for a victimless drug "crime". A real racist would never do that. Obama will let 'em sit. Posted January 8, 2008 8:08 PM
John writes:
It's not about Ron Paul, it's about his message of Liberty. Ron is a messenger, and thank God for that. May his message proliferate through the hearts and minds of many Americans, and maybe we can make the country what the Founding Fathers envisioned it to be. Posted January 8, 2008 9:33 PM
Bill writes:
U.S. Debt clock http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ each American's share of our debt $30,264 and growing. Someone needs to stop this. If not Ron Paul then who? Posted January 8, 2008 10:20 PM
Chris Rasch writes:
My problem with (1) is that, even if you accept Paul's statement, the incident illustrates the sort of people who rally to his banner. Paul's newsletters are disappointing, in that either a) he demonstrated great negligence in letting them go out under his name or b) wrote the articles himself. Neither reflect well on him. I think too his response to their discovery was underwhelming. But I don't think that the newsletters reflect at all "...the sort of people who rally to his banner..." The vast bulk of Ron Paul supporters learned of him in the last 8-9 months. So what they know of him comes from his campaign materials. And Paul has been running on a campaign of limited government, sound currency, and a humble foreign policy. The racial stereotypes expressed in his newsletter were never expressed in any of his campaign materials or his public appearances. Very few people were even aware of the content of the newsletters until Kirchik's article. So I think your insinuation that racists make up a significant fraction of Ron Paul's support is highly implausible. Could it be that your support for the Iraq war is affecting your objectivity when analyzing Ron Paul or his supporters? Posted January 8, 2008 10:22 PM
TGGP writes:
Posted January 8, 2008 10:52 PM
oldhand writes:
Posted January 9, 2008 12:46 AM
Todd writes:
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Tony writes:
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FrancisM writes:
Did you read the pieces? they don't sound like Paul, Paul's explanation follows. this is disgusting that this even continues. Ron Paul is a model for all the world to follow. I don't know who you're supporting, but if you understand economics and/or market forecasting, I'd suggest you take a look at whats to come. the only one here who can stop the coming depression is Dr. Ron Paul. there is no other option. Posted January 9, 2008 1:14 AM
badmedia writes:
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mike writes:
6. Stick with Ron Paul, and forgive his past transgressions and realize everyone makes mistakes, but has atoned for it through his service record, and modified view through living and learning. Hard to simply dismiss this candidate because of his past errors in judgment that has been corrected over the course of 20 years. So, what did you tell us Mr. Kling? That the military support he's been getting was fully aware of this fact last month when this came out? This is old news. Most of us focus on the economy, war, and foreign policy; since racism is such a dated issue. Anyone who cries racism these days is probably racist themselves and uses it as a punchline just to get attention. It amounts to paranoia. It's pretty clear Ron Paul is for individual rights now and not pandering to any special interests (his voting record is his voice). And pretty much, he's the only one (other than maybe Kucinich and Gravel) that is telling us the truth. But you decide your fate. You will get the government you vote for. You'll deserve it. :-) Posted January 9, 2008 6:27 AM
Matt writes:
Why would a libertarian be concerned with race? Posted January 9, 2008 7:17 AM
Wes Johnson writes:
I'm done trying to help my fellow Americans if they are incapable of understanding things better than this. No! Please don't abandon us! What will we do without you? Serious questions though: When and in what way did Ron Paul repudiate these newsletters? Are there links to what he has said about the newsletters historically? Posted January 9, 2008 9:18 AM
Floccina writes:
I would choose nuber 3. There is no other candidate who would end the war on drugs. The war on drugs is worse than all of that. Posted January 9, 2008 9:25 AM
Discontent writes:
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common sense writes:
It's nice to see so many people give Paul the benefit of the doubt. I'm not sure why so many of you trust him, but it's still nice to see. The bigger question: why vote for this guy? His debate performance was pathetic. At one point he 1) blamed the Iraq war for medical inflation, 2) claimed that inflation due to excessive borrowing had led to the high price of oil. No doubt all the Paul supporters will bash me now....but read through the NH debate transcripts. Both statements were strongly implied. If Paul believes what he said, then I question his intelligence. If he doesn't believe what he said, then he's pandering and he doesn't deserve my respect. Posted January 9, 2008 10:36 AM
Paul Zrimsek writes:
Obama will let 'em sit. More precisely, he'll make harmless speeches while his subordinates do the dirty work of putting 'em in jail. Which, logically, ought to entitle him to the same sort of pathetic excuses I see people here offering on behalf of Ron Paul. Posted January 9, 2008 2:54 PM
Sara DiNicola writes:
ZERO comments?...Not surprising, the only reason I clicked on this article is because I was led to believe I could read more about a video on Waco that I also own...It shows very blatantly the ATF attitude of NO RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE, and how they couldn't wait for a chance to kill women & children. Posted January 9, 2008 4:43 PM
NH writes:
Wow so much hysterical bullshit with nothing to back it up! The remainder of the above quote can be read at http://judicialwatch.org/http%3A//www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/04/hillary_picks_la_raza_leader_a.html [NH: Comment edited. Please do not quote copyrighted material in full, as it violates fair use laws. Please give sources for quoted material! Thanks--Econlib Ed.] Posted January 10, 2008 2:17 AM
NH writes:
This is not bad news, it's OLD news and junk that no one cares about. I doubt many people are going to worry about this. Ron Paul will be the next MLK. To attack him is like smearing mother theresa. If you knew him personally as I do, you'd know he was a saint and you'd be ashamed of yourself for making up this garbage. Posted January 10, 2008 7:52 AM
NH writes:
EconLog doesn't like my references to Hillary, so I will post an original article here: A while back, Hillary, Obama and Richardson appeared to speak to the biggest organization of racists/terrorists in this nation: LaRAZA. Their name alone strikes terror into those who live in border states and are having their property stolen, children terrorized and adults abducted.... [The remainder of the above quote can be read at Clinton, Obama, and Richardson caught pandering to an openly racist group Racist group plays host to Democrat candidates, Richardson is actual member. It has been revealed that Democrat Presidential Candidates Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Bill Richardson have been pandering to the well-known racist group ‘National Council of La Raza’ whose stated goal is to overpower and eradicate ‘white’ Americans and take back the land to form a new country called ‘Aztlan’.... [The remainder of the above quote can be read at [NH: Comment edited for violating copyright. NH--this is the second time I've discovered that you've pasted in full copies of material that appears elsewhere on the web, even after you were warned. You have claimed that the above posts were original to you, which does not appear to be true; you have not cited sources (I added the sources myself after discovering the original articles elsewhere); and you have been rude in your ongoing comments on EconLog in this and other threads. Your comment privileges have been revoked.--Econlib Ed.] Posted January 10, 2008 7:59 AM
NH writes:
The I told you so what? Did you tell us Hillary and Obama were racists too? We demand equal time. Posted January 10, 2008 8:02 AM
Richard writes:
#5. Abandon Ron Paul and all other "libertarians" yourself most emphatically included. The libertarians who could have an impact politically, foremost among which is Ron Paul, are compromised by non-libertarian ideas on abortion or immigration, as well as affiliation (loosely or not-so-loosely) with racist, nativist or whatever unsavory sorts. The "pure" libertarians are angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin types who will never amount to a hill of beans as far as any concrete impact on the contemporary political scene, except to join in the pig-piling on the few long-shot politically active libertarians. Just wait for society to collapse and try to rebuild at that time. Posted January 11, 2008 2:13 PM
Rimfax writes:
#3, except that I do not think that it is "minor noise". I think that it is a big deal and that Ron Paul screwed up and he has continuously failed to demonstrate that he realizes just how foul the sentiments were or explained why he did not put a stop to the repeated appearance of such sentiments in his newsletter. It was no isolated incident. Regardless of his repeated errors, he has also continued to demonstrate that he advocates a government that has less power to apply the racist discretion of its officials. He is still the far lesser evil. Posted January 11, 2008 5:29 PM
est. writes:
Anyone who says this is old news is wrong. The previous stories were about one newsletter which Paul dismissed as having happened without his knowledge. Now we find it was many newsletters over a period of years. His denial no longer works. Paul published the newsletter and promoted it and profited from it. His office sent it out. He can’t claim he didn’t know what was going on in his own office for years on end. The editor of Paul’s newsletter was Lew Rockwell who is responsible for the content but who still is Paul’s close friend and adviser. So Rockwell’s denunciations are self-serving at best -- Rockwell was one of the owners of the newsletter. I’m baffled by why people think it is meaningless that Paul’s newsletter published this. If Paul didn’t like it why keep publishing it? And why do it for several years? And why is Paul still close friends with the people responsible for the articles? Posted January 11, 2008 8:28 PM
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