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The author at All Three Rings in a related article titled Simple realities… writes:
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Robin Hanson writes:
A good list! Posted August 29, 2008 7:31 AM
DW writes:
Realistic? Sure. Bitter? Yeah, that, too. #2 is tricky because it's a relative measure of 'status' Not sure you're making a relevant distinction in #6 I like #7, but it sounds more like a challenge than a statement (might be achievable?) Posted August 29, 2008 8:11 AM
Luke G. writes:
Excellent list. I just wish you had continued on past "etc." Posted August 29, 2008 8:18 AM
Troy Camplin, Ph.D. writes:
You should run for office on that platform. You won't win, but it would be fun to hear people respond to it. Posted August 29, 2008 8:42 AM
Chuck writes:
You could have started your list with 'etc.' and saved a little time. Posted August 29, 2008 8:57 AM
aez writes:
Bracing and a pleasure to read. Posted August 29, 2008 9:29 AM
Brad Hutchings writes:
Arnold, This is the time when you shine. A common complaint I get when I forward some of my favorite libertarian stuff to friends who are more mainstream in their politics is "oh, he's just being provocative". The campaign gives you precisely the context you need to be relevant. Posted August 29, 2008 10:50 AM
dave smith writes:
The problem with #7 is the number of politicians who would be against both parts of the statement. (Think about "Buy Ohio.) Posted August 29, 2008 11:20 AM
liberty writes:
Oh don't be too sure... a good Marxist platform could achieve 1,2*,6** and 7 and the illusion of 3,4 and 5. * Reduce college education to propaganda and Marxist theory, so that everyone can do it! ** There won't be much work to be done. Posted August 29, 2008 11:41 AM
David Friedman writes:
Your point 1 is optimistic, since it assumes that no politician will start a war, or cause some other catastrophe, sufficient to wipe out our species. Your point 7 is implausible. An American President, for instance, can point to the large economic difference between moving labor from Maryland to Virginia and moving it from the U.S. to Canada. Workers in both Maryland and Virginia pay taxes to the U.S., workers in Canada generally don't. Posted August 29, 2008 11:54 AM
Rob Sperry writes:
If by 2 you mean bring the entire bottom half up, then that is unassailable. I have no hope that a politician will improve education in general. But from a educational engineering perspective a good chunk of the bottom half can reach a college level if given proper instruction. Direct Instruction and similar methodologies have shown that you do this. They can take schools in the bottom 20% and make them perform at the 50% level (See Project Follow Through). Education is all about the instructional quality, everything else is a distance second. No politician is going to focus on instruction because it is not a tool of power. It requires actual understanding of what is and ignoring what people believe. What is sad is that even at the college level education is mostly about sorting and not about educating. The basic process is to give hap hazard instruction that has undergone no testing and then to evaluate students with tests that have not undergone any accuracy or reliability studies. The goal seems to be to sort for who can learn despite a learning system with no quality control. Posted August 29, 2008 11:57 AM
dearieme writes:
But this time there is a rather attractive woman to look at. Count your blessings. Posted August 29, 2008 1:21 PM
Isaac K. writes:
5. Fantastic. I happen to be working for SSA. Love the post, Dr. Kling. Posted August 29, 2008 1:56 PM
Chuck writes:
The other aspect of the education thing is to take it in context with free trade. If people without a college degree can make a decent living, then no need for everyone to 'get a college degree'. And in truth, not everyone is cut out for a college degree. If free trade moves millions of low-skill jobs over seas, then we'll need to get the low-skill people set up for something higher skilled, maybe something that even needs a college degree. But not everyone is really cut out for a college degree, which is ok as long as we've not moved all the low skill jobs over seas.... lather rinse repeat. Posted August 29, 2008 1:58 PM
Adam writes:
David, An American President, for instance, can point to the large economic difference between moving labor from Maryland to Virginia and moving it from the U.S. to Canada. Workers in both Maryland and Virginia pay taxes to the U.S., workers in Canada generally don't. Isn't that a red-herring, though? Since the actual labourers aren't moving, just the labour. The politician would need to also show that no new labour would replace the labour that moved. Posted August 29, 2008 6:46 PM
Niccolo writes:
#1 Should include, nor should they.
Posted August 30, 2008 4:26 AM
Doug Ransom writes:
In Canada, we don't have to worry about unlimited access to health care services for everyone! The Government just decides which services are provided, and who gets them (i.e. rationing via queues, age or other expert judgment). For the most part, it is a crime to offer or purchase medically necessary services, so nobody can get better treatment options than you! We are currently allowed to travel to foreign countries to purchase additional medical services - if our health and resources and foreign travel policy permit us to travel. Posted August 30, 2008 10:35 AM
Snark writes:
Well, boast if you must, Doug Ransom. But it's only a matter of time (November?) before all of us here in the U.S. will be leaning on the everlasting arms of government, after which I'm sure we'll be more equal than Canadians! Posted August 30, 2008 11:23 AM
Jay writes:
On #6, I remember conversations with my grandfather and father on the number of different jobs they held throughout their lives. They had to change "career paths," and adapt, why are people so resistant to it now? It is an unfortunate commentary on our societal evolution... On #7, The difference is that the U.S. Government is able to tax those transactions and control the behavior Posted August 30, 2008 12:11 PM
Kim writes:
It's a pleasure to see someone shares my cynicism about modern politicians! I'm always amazed when people expect the government to provide for all of their needs. What happened to that American work ethic of our grandparents? (Yep, behind my cynicism is a wistful optimist.) Posted August 30, 2008 12:50 PM
Nick writes:
I, for one, don't want to live in a country where the majority of people believed that a politician could have that much power. I agree with Kim, American has lost their work ethic. The politicians can't change that, we have to change that. I think that goes back to #6. We don't need more jobs, there are plenty around. What the public has to do is adapt to those jobs and get the work done until something better comes along. Too many people expect to get the lucky break without working to put themselves in a position to actually get the lucky break. We are too fascinated as a culture with making it big instead of making it work. Posted August 30, 2008 3:04 PM
Ray G writes:
That would be a nice mass email. I loathe the things, but one of my dingbat co-workers always has an inbox full of them. Maybe if I copy that list and send it to her, I could interject a bit of reason into their diet of celebrity worship. Posted August 30, 2008 10:16 PM
Barkley Rosser writes:
In spite of Isaac K., the gloomy projections about social security have been ridiculously exaggerated, as I have pointed out in this venue on more than one occasion to no effective response. Of course, medicare is in serious trouble, although that looks like more of a sub-species of the more general problems in the financing of the US medical care system, the problem being rising medical costs rather than some demographic problem, with respect to which the US is in much better shape than most other high income nations. Posted September 1, 2008 4:15 PM
Chris Holte writes:
I've been alternatively laughing and wanting to cry since I started reading your Cato article. You don't seem to even recognize ideological blinders when they are blinding you. This list is case in point. Your points are full of straw arguments, biased arguments, and false assumptions. How can they not lead to bad answers? You teach College, you are a smart guy, why not examine your assumptions? 1. American consumption of foreign oil will end -- because the world will effectively run out of foreign oil, and may stop accepting American Dollars long before it runs out. The only question is when. What you call "irrational behavior" reflects a self-centered viewpoint. Your Cato Arguments reflect a biased viewpoint. You are right that people make systematic errors. These are driven by emotional driven biases, not simple "irrationality." What you call "anti-market bias" is institutional memory of repeated financial market failures. What you call "anti-foreign" and "make-work" bias is also driven by perspective. An economy may be prosperous that is building mansions in Potomac, Lakeshore drive, and Hollywood, but if people are finding their jobs shipped overseas, prosperity is them having a job. It's not even a "free market" if folks are kept out of it or the owners of that market practice deception and false advertising. People don't vote the way we like them to because they tend to trust the wrong people. It is very rational not to believe "experts" who are repeatedly wrong, and who regularly offer "remedies" that are worse than the illness. If people aren't too happy with "free market" ideas, it could possibly be that those ideas are faulty, or poorly applied. However, American's keep voting for free market Pandits and politicians even though those people repeatedly demonstrate that what they pass off as "free enterprise" is anything but free or a panacea for their ills. Posted September 1, 2008 5:19 PM
K writes:
I agree. Your list is spot on. It won't change anything. People need someone to lie to them and tell them these things will eventually happen so they have something to look forward to. Be it a "change" or more of the same...these things can/will not be changed by a politician. Posted September 3, 2008 10:12 PM
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