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The author at Villainous Company in a related article titled Smoke and Mirrors writes:
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MernaMoose writes:
The precedent this will set, is that Uncle Sam is allowed to slit his own wrists without interference from We The People, anytime a large enough group of politicians in Washington decides that's what they want to do. We The People are merely obligated to participate and pay. In the long run democracy is a political race to the bottom, because you can always get away with sinking to or slightly below the level of your opponent. But this takes us from a downward slope to an all-out nose dive. I say we'll be in the same place as Greece in under a decade. Anybody want to bet on what career paths have any hope of surviving the impending fiasco? The only thing I can come up with, is either becoming a tax collector, or else starting a chain of low cost mortuaries. Because the only certainties are death and taxes. Posted March 19, 2010 6:58 PM
ed writes:
This is the same point made by Greg Mankiw a few days ago (great minds think alike): Imagine you have a friend who has a budget problem. Every month he spends more than he earns. His credit card bills are piling up. He is clearly on an unsustainable path. Then one day he comes to you with an idea. http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2010/03/problem-with-deficit-neutrality.html Posted March 19, 2010 7:32 PM
John Thacker writes:
I would introduce a bill that bans the use of promised future cuts as a financing mechanism. But how would you do that besides reducing the budget window to a single year? I'd settle for at least saying that cuts can only be scored if they take effect immediately, instead of being phase in or delayed. Is that what you mean? Posted March 19, 2010 7:36 PM
8 writes:
Could using Medicare cuts fund the abolition of the income tax? Fight fire with fire... Posted March 19, 2010 9:19 PM
R. Richard Schweitzer writes:
Of course all this hoakum in the Senate Bill about Medicare "Cuts" - PAYING- for anything is a breakfast of mule biscuits. It's not something you want to eat, and probably can't digest. But, the essence is: "We are going to 'PAY' that is, offset the impact on the budget [at the point where the PAY adds to a calculation of the deficit - not for the provision of actual revenues] by transferring the cause of that amount of impact on the budget to the other program." It's budget neutering. Reducing expeditures scheduled, but not yet made, for program A, does not create any revenues for program B. And, of course, we could go on examining the mule biscuits to see what the mules ate. Posted March 19, 2010 9:56 PM
Andrew_M_Garland writes:
Here is a simpler version. All budget savings are based on this old joke. The boy ran into the house and said exitedly, "Dad, I saved a dollar today by running home behind the bus." The gruff father gave him the back of his hand. "Stupid child, you could have saved five dollars by running home behind a cab." Posted March 19, 2010 10:47 PM
Trader writes:
Are you questioning the integrity of the non-partisan CBO? If a corporation put in place a good cost-cutting plan and the markets (i.e. financial analysts) reacted by pushing up the price of its stock, and the company then used the opportunity to issue new stock to launch a valuable new acquisition or investment, you'd denounce that as well? So what are the lessons we are to take from your post? (1) Arnold Kling is against plans to cap costs in the largest and most out of control entitlement program. (2) Arnold Kling is against government borrowing of any sort, no matter what its purpose. (3) Arnold Kling is against borrowing against future, independently corroborated, cashflows of any sort. In short Arnold Kling thinks we'd be better off without credit markets. (4) Arnold Kling is against repairs to our failed medical insurance markets? Spelling it out this way makes me sound a bit facetious, but seriously, what is your analytical point?
Posted March 20, 2010 11:32 AM
Mercer writes:
Medicare cost growth is the biggest problem in the budget. What Obama is doing is creating an incentive to lower it's growth. "If I were the Republicans, I would introduce a bill that bans the use of promised future cuts as a financing mechanism." Why do you support the official GOP position that retired people over 65 have a blank check from the treasury while people working for small business get zero help from the government with their insurance problems? Do you really think this is the best use of the federal budget? Posted March 20, 2010 1:21 PM
Yancey Ward writes:
I give the proposed cuts one year or less before they are repealed. That is the real problem with financing new spending with proposed cuts here. For example, Congress could cut another $200 billion this year by doing nothing at all, but they have promised to fix this cut later this year as a carrot for AMA support of the health care bill. Posted March 20, 2010 5:18 PM
Yancey Ward writes:
And who wants to bet against these cuts' repeal being used to buy support for some additional healthcare reform that expands government spending, financed, of course, with cuts in government healthcare spending somewhere else? Posted March 20, 2010 5:21 PM
fundamentalist writes:
"What troubles me is the substantive precedent of using future cuts in Medicare benefits as a funding source." It's only troubling if you think politicians are honest. There is no way they will stick to those promised Medicare cuts. It's political suicide. Congress frequently promised to cut Medicare spending only to change its mind at the last minute and raise spending. That has been the pattern for decades. Posted March 22, 2010 9:01 AM
Evan writes:
This article showed me how ridiculous some of the decisions our government makes are. If a decision our government makes can be compared to a decision your crazy uncle Fred would make its probably not very smart. Our government should use the money they will gain in future Medicare cuts to pay off some of the debt we are in as a country. I believe Obama should worry less about his health care bill and more about the national debt. Posted March 22, 2010 11:59 PM
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