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The author at schonger.com in a related article titled Great Audiocast: This American Life to air retraction of Apple/Foxconn story writes:
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kebko writes:
This reminds me of one way I wish we could change conversational terms. Everyone speaks about exporting jobs to low wage countries. But this is actually not correct at all. We are not moving factories to the Congo. What is happening is that manufacturing jobs are moving to where wages are RISING. This is a much more true representation of what is happening, but because this is not the language we generally use, speaking in this way can leave people dumbfounded. Posted March 17, 2012 2:50 PM
Ash writes:
@kebko, I agree with your analysis of the conventional language, but your proposed alternative is also somewhat lacking. Jobs do move to places where wages are presently low. The subsequent negative feedback causes wages to rise. It strikes me as slightly misleading to say that "manufacturing jobs are moving to where wages are RISING", because that suggests that the movement of jobs is caused by rising wages. However, it's equally possible that I'm reading too much into your claim. Posted March 17, 2012 3:30 PM
Charlotte writes:
Though I like the article, and this is a small point, I think you should know that This American Life is distributed by Public Radio International and not National Public Radio. Both are public radio formats so they both air on the same channels, but are, indeed, different entities. Posted March 17, 2012 4:16 PM
David R. Henderson writes:
@Charlotte, Posted March 17, 2012 5:49 PM
Steve Sailer writes:
Okay, but, say, coal mining in 1885 was more inherently dangerous than assembling iPads in 2012. The cost of making iPad assembly reasonably safe is pretty small potatoes compared to Apple's market cap. Posted March 17, 2012 7:11 PM
vt writes:
No need to compare to mining in 19th century US, the working conditions in Apple factories in China are 3 times safer than the average US working conditions TODAY, acording to Forbes. Posted March 17, 2012 8:18 PM
Mark M. writes:
Great post. Thanks. Safety being a "Normal good" is a strong point. I hadn't thought of it that way. Posted March 17, 2012 8:43 PM
kebko writes:
@ash, Posted March 17, 2012 10:32 PM
hanmeng writes:
@Steve Sailer Coal mining in China today isn't much safer than it was in 1885 in the US. Yes, Apple might have room for improvement, but Chinese companies are probably much worse. We don't hear about it because American reporters aren't interested in bashing Chinese companies, nor is the largely state-controlled media. For instance, recently the State-run CCTV accused McDonald's of selling products past their sell-by windows, as if all Chinese food retailers are without problem. Posted March 17, 2012 11:55 PM
Steve writes:
Good points. Thank you. Generally, I liked the retraction show. I think it stumbled at the very end when the host asks, basically, "Why should I be mad?" and Duhigg gives some reasons the host might consider. Then, the show ends. It should have followed with, "Why should I be happy?", the reason being most of the Chinese at Foxconn are better off than they would be in less-desirable jobs. Posted March 18, 2012 8:30 AM
D writes:
As Kip Viscusi wrote in "Job Safety" in The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics David, any plans on an Encyclopedia kindle version? Posted March 18, 2012 9:10 AM
Ken B writes:
To cross-pollinate threads, Ira Glass is implicitly but firmly rejecting Fish here. Posted March 19, 2012 11:48 AM
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