ARNOLD KLING
March 31, 2012
Fukuyama on Acemoglu/Robinson
March 31, 2012
Free for Now
March 30, 2012
Brief Notes from Kansas City
March 30, 2012
Ed Glaeser on Job Creation
March 30, 2012
Timothy Taylor on College Loans
BRYAN CAPLAN
March 31, 2012
Planning for the Unpleasant Future: Private vs. Public
March 30, 2012
Tyler's Telling Question About My Education Book
March 30, 2012
David Autor Signals Wit and Insight
March 29, 2012
The Banality of Leninism vs. the Wisdom of Acton
March 28, 2012
Why They Haven't Been Fired
DAVID HENDERSON
March 31, 2012
My Review of Bruce Bartlett
March 30, 2012
Krugman on Supreme Court Reasoning About Health Insurance
March 29, 2012
Is the Pool of Liberty Drying Up?
March 27, 2012
Henderson and Gochenour on "Presidential Greatness"
March 26, 2012
George Selgin on "The Bernank"




Go back to Goldin and Katz. As I recall, they look at labor force cohorts. I worry that looking at people over 25 distorts the picture by including retirees. The low-educated people who are dying out are people who aged out of the labor force 15 years ago or more.
"The first figure shows a flow, not a stock."?
Both figures show a stock. The first figure is showing a subset of the second.
The flows into the different stocks are the same: people turning 25. However, the flows out are different. In the first figure, people flow out when they hit 30. In the second, people flow out when they die (or leave the US?).
But you are correct in that the second figure contains people who grew up at a time with lower education levels. As these people flow out, the average will rise and plateau at the level of the first, if no one beyond the age of 29 finishes high school or goes to college and deaths and migration are evenly distributed among the educational groupings.
Yes, but if the figure for 25-29 yr olds plateaus at about 85% (eyeballing the graph) and we are currently at 80% for age 25+, we are certainly approaching the plateau. Still, your point is very astute.
Please see the James Heckman and Paul LaFontaine paper on public high school graduation rates over time. http://www.nber.org/papers/w13670
I believe the second graph you display counts GEDs as high school graduates. Research by Heckman and others indicates that GEDs and actually graduating from high school do not yield the same returns in the labor market. GEDs earn less, all else equal.
Heckman and LaFontaine separate out GEDs and find that the percent of Americans with a high school degree or higher peaked around 1970.
This appears to be a quantity analysis without regard to quality. I don't think many observers would assert that the quality of high school education or college education is comparable to earlier years. So, even if there are more "graduates", it is questionable whether their readiness to contribute value to the labor market is equivalent to earlier years.
Hmmm. We start with the question "Why the return to education?" and a proposed answer: relative scarcity, which presumably has been increasingly scarce.
We then show the scarcity argument fails.
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What's the conclusion suppose to be here?
(My personal suggesting is that it's something of a bubble result that's reflective of both the Greenspan era equity bubbles as well as the more recent bubble that has so impacted the housing markets. Any takers on a hypothesis that return to level of education starts to see problems?)
And here I thought economic analysis was about marginals, not about averages...
It seems that you attack a straw man in the following sense. If the claim was that plateauing education lead to an increased education premium, there is already an implicit assumption in that statement that demand for well-educated people is steadily growing over time.
If wages for highly educated people was only a function of the stock, a plateauing education attainment even in the total population should not affect earnings.
The idea must be, which is very much implicit in Goldin and Katz' title "The RACE between ..." , that there is a secular increase in requirements of skills over time. Therefore, the skill of workers have to increase all the time to keep the wage premium constant. Over time, the old workers which the young are about to replace will have a higher skill level, and to maintain the time derivative of skill level in the work force, the skills of young people have to be continually improved.
The consequence of the plateauing in your first graph is that the derivative is decreasing in the second, and if you assume a roughly constant increase in demand for skills, this will push up the skill premium and the driving force is the plateauing of young people's education.
Both graphs show the rise of credentialism, nothing more